Echoing Strike Warlock Is it Still Worth Playing in Ladder Season 14? D2R

Ramos-i3p: Nah it was fun while it lasted rip d2r
CHUGMALTLIQUOR1: Disgusting, my Warlock is now unplayable. Doing less damage than my Hammerdin that barely has any investment into it (just spirits/etc). Was doing over 15k damage (now doing ~5k...) and was actually able to finally enjoy the game for the first time in many years, only for it to be wiped away because I didnt set my console offline in time... Yet again blizzard ruins it for everyone. How have they not been sued yet? This is not the first time they pulled a bait and switch like this. I cant wait to see this game die off again. Enjoy the botting and losers who have no lives and can farm 8 hrs a day!
jeremy3770: Lol. I would unsub, but I was never subbed. Instead, I will never watch another one of your videos.

ES looks fine he says. What a joke. Quit drinking the koolaid.

For 75% of the playerbase ES is now dead. How many people do you really think were running over 100K?

My lock that ran something like 12k to 30K with an eth cv is now gonna do what?

250-500?

What a joke.
NiCKOLAYNINAMK: they nerfed it tooo much , it is pointless to play warlock , i cant play full party cows now LOL.
DanielHille-l6c: Echo warlock is dead. can see it already in Singleplayer, patch is on and warlock sux hard... no way this class is worth playing anymore.
kylesmith987: ES is definitely fine the only thing that makes me sad about it is that it is another physical build thrown into the dumpster. Not saying ES can't be run as physical successfully but i don't understand the balance direction of making physical builds just the worst builds in general across the the board. I feel like they could have at least given it the ability to trigger crushing blow, open wounds, etc. and maybe even made it care about base weapon damage more as i find it sad that we for once had a build that could actually use those cool 2h physical weapons like fortitude, death, and breath of the dying and then went and immediately killed that.
JTCollier: Appreciate this update and the work that went into these analyses. I look forward to more info (on this and other builds) soon!
thrinelikeit: echoing strike has been nerfed to the ground
aztraeuz: I think people are being unreasonable. The completely broken character had one build nerfed. That build is still viable, and every other build is still viable as well.

If you wanted Echoing Strike to stay as it was, you don't want what's best for D2R, and it's probably a good thing you're mad. We want players that want what's best for the game. We don't need players that are going to complain that their absolutely insanely broken nonsense got fixdd.
DoooookieZ: Niiice.

Do you know when d2planner will be updated to the new patch?

Feels like I’m playing d2planner more then d2 lately
travisdunnell1160: ES is like the 4th best Warlock spec now. I am glad you found a way to make it work but if you want to play warlock this season I would strongly suggest using a different build
Jones411c: I'm sorry but this is misinformation for at least a part of it. I know people wanna minimize their responsibility on the request for Nerfs but jeez louise have some honesty. The current way of building it (physical) doesn't clear P8 TZ with any ease. I ran in a pack of temptresses (unkillable) on P8 without knowing the patch was live. Enigma saved my booty with 2 life points left while being on my last bar to L98. You lose 70% damage without curse and 80% with curse at the minimum. Can't even bring a physical immune to killable position with Lethargy. The damage loss is destructive with perfect Gear - only missing Bonebreak. (Death, Ariocs Needle, Insight CV with ED, Eth CV Fortitude, Perfect Anni, Gore Ridders, Shako, Mephistos book, Skillers, Maras, Seraphims, ...) On top of that you don't always hit anymore. Another 20% loss in damage on top of that is even if you have some AR.

This build is going to suck building it up from scratch if you start out with ES skill. It was already weak to begin with pre-nerf without any gear, points, auras, curse and demon. This build is destroyed. The Magic transition may save it. But sadly I can't test it.

I can't respect because I kept my Hephasto with 1 point into bind demon. This is the only way I still keep my damage up to 15k on the max and 6k on the low. If lose those point damage will even decrease more. I had to even get an act 2 with Might to bring the damage up to this. This is with 2 aura's on the books (concentration and might)

One echo on my build does 1200k damage and 3000k on the max. If you hit!!! Then you still have to go through resistances. The numbers don't lie. When you look at the amount of life of a monster has you know you are not killing anything with ease except minions with low health. With perfect gear you can kill slowly but just run away from any temptresses, apparitions, ghosts, ... I probably have one the best builds out there because of the Demon Hack and it barely works decent on P1 TZ.

To put things in perspective. After testing my Hephasto demon kills faster than the ES damage.

BTW Regular Smuck ran a one to ubers with a crap weapon and bricked it. So you don't kill ubers with Wirts Leg. Not with any ease at least. If you can't stop the regen.

I was hoping to get as close as possible to L99 but for now I'll be happy to save it to L98 without dying. I could literally cry right now.

Balance my ass. Just a character removed from the S-Tier. Just what this game needed. Less damage and less viable builds.

Luckily the Fire warlock survived. Hope nobody starts looking for the next build to kill off.
Brianrunawayconformity: Meh I don't understand d2 anymore. They only want lightning build to gods. I think infinity javazone and Nova should be nerfed. Real elitism with this nerf . My desire to play has fallen to a all time low. Mosiac lmfao seriously f this game
Fender178: With Echoing Strike I am going to have to respec anyway so it don't matter that I have to change a few things. I can swap out my bone break sunder charm for the magic one. Also since you are using Hex purge Mac I would recommend using the new unique helm Hellwarden's Will because it grants you -5 to -8 enemy magic resistance on top of 1 to all skills and 20% IAS and 20% FCR and 4-6 mana after each kill. With the old setup and dealing over 100K damage I think It was too over powered and I was killing stuff way too quickly for hex purge to matter. Hmm I might have to swap out my Eth Fortitude for another weapon because -25% to enemy's defense sounds very temping because of attack rating.

Right now playing through again as a summoning warlock using tainted rather than goatman since the new patch dropped and man it is so much easier to play through the game again with a summoner since they buffed Demonic Mastery allowing you to get 3 demons very quickly. I am doing the similar stuff as the Goatman build but applying the stuff that relates to the tainted demons.
Boonatix: Is there even any reason to play in this upcoming season... is there any new exciting endgame or anything new to do? If not then... I guess, I can skip it ^^
JDog12345-j: RIP Warlock.
Acaran: The cope in the comments is insane to me. I just don't understand how these people even started to play D2R in the first place. The build was completely broken and braindead. HOW IS IT A BAD THING IT IS NOW BALANCED. LIKE HOW. I JUST DON'T GET IT. if you want number go up go play fucking cookie clicker. I'm so fucking done. Like comments like RIP D2R, lmao. Who are these people and how do these comments have so many upvotes...
AlekTrev006: I have SLIGHT reservations about this new conceptual EchoLock, though of course I agree w Macro’s Math skills . My worry is that this Seems to be exactly what Mr Llama was worried about in an earlier “The Echoing Strike problem’ (something like that, I forget name exactly) video he did. He worried the changes the Devs were making MIGHT result in a situation where a random weapon — with massive Bane / Purge investment (instead) could end up Stronger than the ‘normal’ method of ranking The Skill itself - plus all Synergies for said skill ! It SEEMS like Macro is confirming Llama’s concerns though … that the Purge focus is now “better” than ranking The Skill - yeesh ?!
alexpopowski1318: Abyss is the best tbh. Absolutely stacked with all the minus magic res gear and void, and I absolutely shred everything, all while having 260-300 mf, depending on if I want Gheed’s in my inventory. When I say shred, I mean shred. Max abyss and synergies, 1 point wonder into enhanced entropy, enough points into defiler to reach 57% damage, 10 into demon mastery, rest of points into consume. You run hella fast too which makes adjusting miasma chains fun. Truly disgusting mf damage dealer. GG. Enjoy.
Lord_Nielsen: At least check in with the the dog bro
Kenneth_McGrew: im still hoping one day the Druid can use teleport from enigma as a wolf... that charc sucks for mobility
white970: Honestly even if he was barely playable I started diablo 2 recently and warlock echowing Strike is so fun I would still play and take it to hell once more
Love the play style so much
Hurling swords at enemies is super cool
Jorko1987: Thanks a lot! I was looking forward to your videos and also wanted to ask you for some other recommendations for builds and ideas! I plan on playing WL again despite the changes I still like the character but am semi-tired of ES so I wonder if there would be any other viable builds or if you can compare them speedwise? Thanks again and keep up the great info vids!
Ikki22817: Sir do a budget chaos p8 hell for starter please please
JJV7243: How many echoing strike weapons can hit a single target? Imagine you shoot 1 echoing strike against diablo - does he get hit with 2/5 weapons on the forward motion and 2/5 weapons on the backwards motion? The weapon damage is split amongst the 10 hits (so it would do 40% of the weapon damage assuming 4/10 can hit him), but 10x hex purge's number?
terrodar19: guys.......just so you know the succubus in the worldstone 1-2 and throne of destruction have amp damage as a SKILL not as a modifier... and its a LOT more than 5%...i think they cast it ALL the time. tried it yesterday. you're welcome
mrsnicks6105: I logged in yesterday... I couldn't wield my Monarch with a 2H weapon. I couldn't bind Ishmail Vilehand.... My damage reduced to 33%.